Guest: Dr. Doug Plata. Topics: Lunar Cots & cislunar space development, policy, Mars, & much more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed back Dr. Doug Plata for this two hour two minute discussion. NOTE THAT THREE SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTS FROM DOUG WILL BE UPLOADED TO THE BLOG. During the first segment, Doug introduced us to the topics he discussed at the recent ISDC conference in Los Angeles. He talked about SpaceX and both the Falcon 9 & Heavy, Lunar ice, hollow ice, a concept he calls Moon for Mars, and more. He also suggested that the Moon was not necessary for a Mars mission. Additionally, while he certainly support a return to the Moon, he does not believe bringing back the VSE and Constellation is the way to do it. I asked him how he got is interest in and start in space advocacy about 4 years ago. Doug told us an interesting story, including how he was influenced by the LCROSS mission. Michael Listner called to ask Doug about the WHY for the missions & projects he was advocating. This was an interesting discussion though Michael got cut off due to a glitch at his end. Tony wanted to know if Doug might be considering a start-up around his ideas in the near future. Other first segment topics included ISRU, what makes space sustainable, and gaining the public interest and trust. I asked him what among his ISDC topics was the least popular. Listen for the answer. In the second segment, Doug said people could find the lunar cots petition at www.lunarcots.com. Doug addressed a question submitted by Tony regarding the use of water for radiation shielding. Doug corrected some misunderstandings from his previous comment & went through the calculations in support of his conclusions. We talked about a recent Mars One announcement for payloads for their planned 2018 mission. Doug talked lunar cots, telerobotics, & benefits which he had sent me on an earlier show. It is the three benefits documents that I will upload to the blog. Doug had more to say on LCROSS & its impact on him. He also told us about his newly made NASA HQ and commercial space contacts regarding lunar cots and cislunar. As the program was ending, he talked about doing a special Flagstaff conference next year with a media event at nearby Meteor Crater. Several times during our discussion, Doug cited Hops Blog for lunar and Mars lander/hopper ideas. See http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.com. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog. You can reach Doug through me or his lunar cots page.